Mivec Club

[toyol_inside]

sifus n bro
mvec normally open at 5200 rite for manual..if using controller n open it bit earlier like 4600 it's ok with the engine?coz some said no good,not enof power...some said ok...
my mech said FIELD is the best controller for mvec..
last question...my frenz mvec using 4wd gbox n lock it to 2wd..good for pick up(dragging) it's true?..any one tried this b4
tq

 

[ZeNeGeR]

Originally posted by munky@Sep 19 2004, 02:55
guys, i heard ppl say mivec no need to change extractor ? izzit true ? mivec extractor already 4-2-1 ar ?

mivec original extractor is good enof already no need to change..

unless u found cusco 4-1 or 4-2-1 than can consider but is expensive also. those item is very rare but is damn smooth on ur high rpm if u have that extractor

 

[ZeNeGeR]

Originally posted by espin315@Sep 18 2004, 18:40
Hello Buddies;

Who would like to solve my ktek-ktek-ktek knocking sound problem? Long story. Go take popcorn.

FYI, I use my mivec for weekends only. In 7 months I cover only 4000 kms. Thats about it. For 7 months using the engine now I covered only 4000 kms.

The story begins like this, there was one night when I "rembat" the car. It was only around the taman/neighbourhood. For a mere 2 minutes. Maxed out 1st and 2nd gears.

Then I parked the car. Before turning off, I could see smoke coming out from the left headlight. Popped the hood, the area between the body and the timing belt there got some smoke. Wandered what smoke........ but it went off eventually. Did I burn the tyre so bad? Didn't take heap cos to me, at that time, normallah....

The next week, when I wanted to use the car, got clunking sound coming from the belting area there. It gets subdued when driving but louder when stationery. More louder when aircond.

Went to mechanic. Opened one-by-one of the auxilary belts (aircond+altenator) so that we eliminate those 2 parts - still got sound. Only thing left is the crank pulley. I saw the crank pulley kinda donnow what la.... kinda not totally turning smoothly round... (dumb statement)

So he got nothing left to open, he opened the crank pulley and the small round bottom end of the timing belt steel cover after the crank pulley gets exposed. Nothing wrong here. So he puts it back. Fixed the crank pulley back and started the engine - amazing - the sound gone!

So I pun go home. And park the car. Happy. Only to find out the next weekend the sound suffices again. But now more subtle. Selectively, kadang-kadang ada, kadang kadang takda. But IT IS Still therelah senang cakap.

So today I went to see him again, you know he said what? Tukar pulley!

What the curse man? Pulley bengkok ke?

He said the pulley maybe takda ngam lagi.
I don't know. Need to get second opinion.

So I ended up putting Tufoil. Didn't do jack. The sound still there. But now I'd say 65% less occurence and audible then before......

The only good Tufoil did was, what I could notice is, creeping in gears (1st, 2nd, 3rd gears with throttle closed, whilst driving at slow speeds) is smoother. Not much though. SNAKE OIL!

So anybody, do you guys know what is wrong with my car? Bearing of the pulley maybe? It cannot be the cams coz my engine is so smooth and the mivec can still kick in.

Anybody?

If u dun trust ur mechanic than change place simple as that. If u let some one repair or modify make sure they are really good on that if not dun guess. They are only 1 who can test and drive ur car a good mechanic they shoulod able to feel and sense wat happen to ur car... hard to give comment on wat happen

 

[ZeNeGeR]

Originally posted by Grimster@Sep 18 2004, 11:58
Guys ,
wat to check for faultyness when looking at a chopshop condition mivec halfcut? sum particular parts which are prone to be faulty for mivecs?? thanks in advance :P

hmm when shopping at 1/2 cut shop u need them to start the engine than rev abit hear the engine sound wat colour smoke came out from extractor. If possible bring the mechanic who going to modify ur engine. If i m not mistaken 1/2 cut shop did guarantee some of the parts. Is depend on how u deal anyway

 

[ZeNeGeR]

Originally posted by toyol_inside@Sep 19 2004, 03:34
sifus n bro
mvec normally open at 5200 rite for manual..if using controller n open it bit earlier like 4600 it's ok with the engine?coz some said no good,not enof power...some said ok...
my mech said FIELD is the best controller for mvec..
last question...my frenz mvec using 4wd gbox n lock it to 2wd..good for pick up(dragging) it's true?..any one tried this b4
tq

hmm mivec controller ? unless u got Microtech,haltech,e-manage or better ecu. When mivec on earlier than 5.2krpm there is not enof air and fuel going in for ur hi cam.And u will lost high end power when ur car reach 7-8krpm. This will maybe lost power when mivec kick in and is quite dangerous imagine ur car not enof fuel to burn... u mean using 4wd gb ? like wat evo, gsr ?...
WAts the point using a 4wd gb but running 2wd unless they modify final drive ratio if not orignial mivec gb is good enof?

 

[ZeNeGeR]

guys check this out see how they look at mivec ??? hahahah i got no comment

http://www.zerotohundred.com/forums/index....showtopic=20978

 

[toyol_inside]

tq ken 4 da info...
in my case i bought mivec just the engine + wiring
so what is the best gbox for it..LSD?sorry no bajet 4 it...one of my frenz running mvec turbo said some controller can open ya mvec or vtec twice..sound weird but i dunno..don't fux me 4 this..

 

[Mivec99]

ANyone interested on a Field SFC(mivec and air fuel controllerr)?

 

[espin315]

Yo Buddies

Thank you Zenegar for the advice. I shall scoot-scoot around for other reputable mechanics.

My greatest gratitude for Lazarus for his lengthy help. He hinted that my pulley might be ageing, due for replacement. I was explained that the pulley, has an inner component made of rubber. This is certainley very enlightening indeed. I do not know this b4.

If it is so, (need be the pulley being replaced) hence the gatal-gatal question arrises - shall we go for aftermarket aluminium crank pulley?

Jeng jeng jeng! I have a reason to change the pulley now! Many of you dont. Give me pros and cons of doin so. BTW, aluminium CPs are at RM350 thereabouts.

About Mivec controllers, I'm using the Vafc. mmmmmm what to say ah...... mmmm thats about it. VAFC. On dyno it gave circa 150hp... One note though, to open the Mivec earlier you need to set more fuel points earlier too..... thats about itlah me no expert here...

 

[munky]

guys, im going to change me engine oil soon, any recommendation ? can i use syntethic engine oil ? or izzit better to use semi syntethic ?

 

[kookoo]

dont need to think of how people see you, as long as you like mivec, then love mivec, dun need to worry others perception of you.

:)

 

[toyol_inside]

Posted: Aug 24 2004, 15:47


Member


Group: Members
Posts: 10
Member No.: 4022
Joined: 24-June 04



what u get:

1 unit Field SFC Vtec / Mivec Controller
1 set harness wiring
1 set manual


Features:

8 step fuel controller, 1000 - 8000 rpm increment (+/- 30% in 1% increments)- real time display
Honda Vtec controller - 100rpm increments from 2000 - 8500 OR
Mitsubishi Mivec controller (same as Vtec Controller)
RPM Display
Speed Display
Speed limiter remover


mivec99.. izzit the same spec with above...some member post it b4..if same 100% will take it

 

[~*Ryo Renjin*~]

whoahahaha.....that demon really lan ci wooo.........
b16a auto can bungkus stock manual mivec kao kao??
must contact out for a try lor.......
ken , ask ur fren bungkus him balik......
sigh...too bad my mivec not longer here anymore......
hahahaa...if not.....he gonna regret...what he said.......
onwheel 130hp.......haih vtec also samelah......

 

[ZeNeGeR]

Originally posted by toyol_inside@Sep 19 2004, 16:46
tq ken 4 da info...
in my case i bought mivec just the engine + wiring
so what is the best gbox for it..LSD?sorry no bajet 4 it...one of my frenz running mvec turbo said some controller can open ya mvec or vtec twice..sound weird but i dunno..don't fux me 4 this..

just normal lsd 1.5 way good enof lah as i know vtec cam got 3 stage.

Mivec definately no only 2 stage

 

[ZeNeGeR]

Originally posted by espin315@Sep 19 2004, 19:12
Yo Buddies

Thank you Zenegar for the advice. I shall scoot-scoot around for other reputable mechanics.

My greatest gratitude for Lazarus for his lengthy help. He hinted that my pulley might be ageing, due for replacement. I was explained that the pulley, has an inner component made of rubber. This is certainley very enlightening indeed. I do not know this b4.

If it is so, (need be the pulley being replaced) hence the gatal-gatal question arrises - shall we go for aftermarket aluminium crank pulley?

Jeng jeng jeng! I have a reason to change the pulley now! Many of you dont. Give me pros and cons of doin so. BTW, aluminium CPs are at RM350 thereabouts.

About Mivec controllers, I'm using the Vafc. mmmmmm what to say ah...... mmmm thats about it. VAFC. On dyno it gave circa 150hp... One note though, to open the Mivec earlier you need to set more fuel points earlier too..... thats about itlah me no expert here...

i would strongly suggest to those 1.6 mivec. Try not to put cam pulley becos u dun need it. campulley is important when u have hi-cam or 1.8 block. This is important to tune ur CP to high end power. If u running 1.6 u does not need to transfer the power to high end.

very very important make sure the mechanic knows how to set ur CP if not ur car will be sucks. like mine now hehehe B)

just my experience hehe take it or leave it

 

[spyderslr]

well, in my opinion, i think having a cam pulley in 1.6 Mivec is fine.....as long as u haf done some port n polish n raising ur Cr to 12:0, it will definitely complement the performance....+ having piggybacks such as V-AFC n ITC too will help.....but dun expect much improvement if u plan to put it in a stock 1.6 mivec lerr....

 

[speedking]

you guys are refering to Adjustable CP right?
y not recommend to change to ACP? With ACP you can play around with ur engine power band...correct or not ar? :huh:

 

[spyderslr]

the other thing bout ACP is, make sure to get a mechanic who knows wat he is doin......screwed it up n u will haf a hefty engine repair bill or even a complete engine change if required....

 

[espin315]

Err buddies.....

In my case it is the Crank Pulleylah.... not Camshaft Pulley..

BTW, an article submitted by who also I can't remember..... stated the adverse effect of putting lighten CRANK pulleys. It distorts the original "Harmonic Frequency" of the car. In the article he brought us to notice, the slightest change in harmonic frequency distrupts the whole harmonic balance of the engine. U must read it to undertstand. It is in car modification forum AFAI remember..

Also, in that article, it showed the cross section of a CRANK pulley. If I see it right - there is rubber in it. Lazarus you are a genius!

So I am almost 100% sure that I'll be needing an original spec Mivec Crank Pulley..... hmmm.......

 

[toyol_inside]

i would strongly suggest to those 1.6 mivec. Try not to put cam pulley becos u dun need it. campulley is important when u have hi-cam or 1.8 block. This is important to tune ur CP to high end power. If u running 1.6 u does not need to transfer the power to high end

last time used 2 cam(a pair)..very hard to "mentain" always out off tune..one nite kena tapau by 1.6, bcoz of the pulley lari.the next day my mech tak puas hati setting the pulley again n again lastly decided to use oni 1 cam pulley..n it worked :lol: used oni the out 1..the one wit distributor stock one...really it worked better...maybe my engine going mad or what..dunno lor..

mr CK aka mivec99
so sorry my frenz who asked 4 FIELD controller got car accident last sturday nite..the car kaboom hancur doze the dvider...one of my frenz oso accident at juru the same nite lor..EK masuk parit one..the white EK..so gimme 2 or 3 days to look 4 another buyer...TQ n sorry..


one of my frenz just buy it from carcass..dunno y suddenly ppl looking 4 FIELD CONTROLLER...what i heard can open twice(2 kali buka) true aaa