ENGINE BLUE-PRINTING

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ENGINE BLUE-PRINTING
What is Engine Blue-printing?


The phrase "engine blue-printing" is much misused among today's so-called engine tuners. Or more likely, they honestly cannot differentiate between a normal engine overhaul and a true engine rebuild based on its blue-print.


An engine overhaul job done by any workshop usually involves replacing the pistons, piston rings, main and con-rod bearings, and other worn parts besides having the block rebored and crankshaft bearing journals reground.


The amount of adherence to specifications and details in rebuilding the engine depends on the mechanic's knowledge, skill and discipline. The reliability and performance of the finished engine are entirely in the mechanic's hands. Hence there is no definite assurance of quality, reliability, and performance.

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Blue-printing requires strict adherence to specifications from the bare engine block right up to the completed engine unit.

A blue-printed engine, on the other hand, is rebuilt by specialists who are well-trained in their field of work. The main difference here is the quality of workmanship and using parts that strictly follow original manufacturer's
specifications. All critical dimensions, clearances, tolerances, tightening torques, settings, assembly procedures, etc. are on specifications. In this way, the completed engine is given the best conditions to perform at its maximum possible output and reliability.

And how does a blue-printed engine compare with a brand new car's engine? The new engine built at the manufacturer's plant is in a way blue-printed since it is produced according to the manufacturer's specifications. However, there is a basic difference in the processes of assembling the engine and the choice of parts used. A factory built engine is put together from off-the-shelf parts that satisfy certain specifications within a range of tolerances.


This simply means that the dimensions and finish of the same parts may not be exactly the same but are within acceptable limits. When the whole engine is put together the running clearances and fit quality may turn out to be excellent or may be at the lowest acceptable level due to a mass production condition known as tolerance stack up.

If the parts used in building the engine happen to be all of the best dimensions and finish, then the engine will be in top form. On the other hand, if most parts are of the least acceptable dimensions, then the engine will be less than ideal. This accounts for the fact that no two cars of the same model from the same factory perform exactly the same. One will be better than the other. You may have also noticed that the maximum power output stated in your car handbook is never achievable. Now you know why!

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Lightening and detailing the piston and con-rod help to improve performance and reliability.


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:ph34r: How much would it cost to blue print a 4g15 carb???? including workmanship... :ph34r:
 
Originally posted by kerhan27@Mar 24 2005, 09:57
:ph34r: How much would it cost to blue print a 4g15 carb???? including workmanship... :ph34r:
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Between RM2,800 to RM3,800 (bottom block only) depending on parts replaced.

Ported head, camshaft, extractor kit when done together with above, additional RM2,600.
 
Hi, have you done any XU10 series engines before? If yes, how much do you charge for blue printing the lower block? what balancing machine you using now? What are the tolerances do you adhere to in the blueprinting process?

head porting? How do you determine the flow after each port work? Does your work include match porting as well?Again, have you done it to an XU series engine before?

Thanx!
 
he he.. yes as powerzone said.. misuse..

Blueprint is..
A blueprint is a plan or design documenting an architecture.Blueprints have mostly been replaced by Diazo prints or whiteprints, which have blue lines on a white background; thus these drawings are called blue-lines. These are sometimes also known, incorrectly, as blueprints.

Revision control was done in contrasting color on the blue-lines, for example red markup of a blue-line copy by the engineer, then yellow markup on the copy by the draftsman who implemented the changes on the original drawing, then brown markup by the checker, on a check-print (a brown-line). Finally, the architect or engineer, draftsman, checker and supervisor would sign the original drawing, thus making it a legal document.

As i know blueprinting an engine is illegal according to law without copyrights permission from the original manufacturer or designers. Most tuning shops eg. TopSecret, HKS, GReddy must have bought copyrights of the blueprints to be reassemble according to aftermarket design and power but not allowed to be assembled to original manufacturers engine specifications again.

Example:
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Blueprints have even hairline sized screw designs in it ;)

nice article powerzone .. improved knowledge .. thnx

cheers
 
Originally posted by Powerzone+Mar 29 2005, 11:59 -->
QUOTE(Powerzone @ Mar 29 2005, 11:59 )
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@Mar 24 2005, 09:57
:ph34r: How much would it cost to blue print a 4g15 carb???? including workmanship... :ph34r:
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Between RM2,800 to RM3,800 (bottom block only) depending on parts replaced.

Ported head, camshaft, extractor kit when done together with above, additional RM2,600.
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bottom block means the rocker cover up to gasket remains untouch? that's to mean all parts replaced max only RM3,800?
 
Originally posted by invisibleghost+Apr 1 2005, 13:27 -->
QUOTE(invisibleghost @ Apr 1 2005, 13:27 )
Originally posted by Powerzone@Mar 29 2005, 11:59
--QuoteBegin-kerhan27
@Mar 24 2005, 09:57
:ph34r: How much would it cost to blue print a 4g15 carb???? including workmanship... :ph34r:
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Between RM2,800 to RM3,800 (bottom block only) depending on parts replaced.

Ported head, camshaft, extractor kit when done together with above, additional RM2,600.
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bottom block means the rocker cover up to gasket remains untouch? that's to mean all parts replaced max only RM3,800?
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Yes, that's correct.
 
Originally posted by sakuraguy@Mar 29 2005, 05:04
he he.. yes as powerzone said.. misuse..

Blueprint is..
A blueprint is a plan or design documenting an architecture.Blueprints have mostly been replaced by Diazo prints or whiteprints, which have blue lines on a white background; thus these drawings are called blue-lines. These are sometimes also known, incorrectly, as blueprints.

Revision control was done in contrasting color on the blue-lines, for example red markup of a blue-line copy by the engineer, then yellow markup on the copy by the draftsman who implemented the changes on the original drawing, then brown markup by the checker, on a check-print (a brown-line). Finally, the architect or engineer, draftsman, checker and supervisor would sign the original drawing, thus making it a legal document.

As i know blueprinting an engine is illegal according to law without copyrights permission from the original manufacturer or designers. Most tuning shops eg. TopSecret, HKS, GReddy must have bought copyrights of the blueprints to be reassemble according to aftermarket design and power but not allowed to be assembled to original manufacturers engine specifications again.

Example:
http://images.andale.com/f2/108/106/2944506/1056924281988_merlin_xx.jpg

Blueprints have even hairline sized screw designs in it ;)

nice article powerzone .. improved knowledge .. thnx

cheers
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Thanks for the explanation from another point of view.
To copy the blue-print without permission is illegal, but to rebuild your engine to the manufacturer's specs is not. Car manufacturers produce "Service Manuals" so that the service/repair centers follow their specs when rebuilding/repairing the cars.
 
hi, does powerzone have the service manuals and equipment to do proper blueprinting & balancing on honda b-series engines? :)
 
Yes, we have most cars' specs and engine rebuild data, including European models.

We need data not only for rebuilds, but also for normal servicing and tuning.
 
blue printing involves getting the engine out, taking it apart, etc.. for sure la labour charge accordingly..
 
Temujin said:
blue printing involves getting the engine out, taking it apart, etc.. for sure la labour charge accordingly..

Yes, you're right, it's a lot of work, and we're talking about painstaking & careful workmanship.
 
huakenny said:
blue printing for a car so expensive? any different before n after doing tat???

Definitely, there's a difference. BTW, Honda Type-R engines are factory blue-printed, that's why the big difference in PRICE and performance too!
 

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