Component Advise

[SaDeLlIx]

Hie there...

I have 2 component sets and a powerful 100rms X 4channel amp....
-Focal Polyglass 165 v2 (6")
-MB Quart premium pce216 (6.5")

My question is:-
-Should i install both component sets on my spacious Accord?
-which comp. should be installed in front (rear)?
-should i bridge my amp and install only one in front(which comp.)?
-will the comp. able to comply with the bridged RMS(200^)?

12" subwoofer and 2channel amp for Bass Addiction....

Music... House,Trance,Reggea,Pop,Heavy Metal & all the Metals...

Advisee waiting for usefull inputs... thanks

 

[Zenn]

u could install both speakers in a rear/front configuration since its a large car, and u already have a sub amp. bridging it into 2 and just powering one pair would be great too, and no 200W wouldnt be overpowering, just make sure gain isnt too high and your not feeding distorted signals. since the focals u have are polyglass i hear they dont give that much bass, so maybe the mbquarts would be better. lastly, if u had a good 3 way electronic crossover, u could also go active. tweets & mids are wired directly to the amp, no more using passive crossovers.

 

[k2000]

the 2 component you have is high risk imitation one....-_-

 

[SaDeLlIx]

u could install both speakers in a rear/front configuration since its a large car, and u already have a sub amp. bridging it into 2 and just powering one pair would be great too, and no 200W wouldnt be overpowering, just make sure gain isnt too high and your not feeding distorted signals. since the focals u have are polyglass i hear they dont give that much bass, so maybe the mbquarts would be better. lastly, if u had a good 3 way electronic crossover, u could also go active. tweets & mids are wired directly to the amp, no more using passive crossovers.

Hie Zenn thanks for your reply...

Soo my setup should be something like these:-
-Front Mbquart pce216
-rear(speakerboard) Focal polyglass
(Both comp. on 100rmsX4 amp)
-12" Digifine on bridged 2channel
Please Heplout with the settings..

Zenn.. about the active crossover i think i have no time to play around hehehe....and what is the necessity of having a 3way electronic crossover when i have these:-
-Adustable crossovers from both of the comp(is this passive?)..(Mbquart is huge.. damn)
Sound adusment modes from my Hu:-
-Graphic EQ
-Parametric EQ
-Build in Crossover
-8 volt line out
-Time allignment setup
How does the sound differs from having one and not...

Thanks again Zenn.. Im delighted..

 

[SaDeLlIx]

the 2 component you have is high risk imitation one....-_-

Hi there..

How to differenciate imitation and Ori... i have both with me now
Mbquart is full of German writings and Focal's speaker serial number mathces the guarantee card serial number... finishing is superb... other symptom's?

 

[kyheng]

The necessity of an e-crossover? First of all how much you going to pay for it? If rm200 only better you don't think of it, as this only bring air plane to your speakers if done properly. A good one maybe cost 500 and above. The only advantage for it is you can tune frequency hz by hz, not like HU only got few hz settings. Unless you are heading for this, if not e-crossovers are a waste.

Anyway imatation is hard to check already now, but looks like your is new, if not then they are really good on making fake speakers. I only have a 6.5" Rockford Fosgate component, looks real only no serial no. and never pass through distributer here. I bought at rm300, then I survey some shops, some are selling for 1k. And mine is exactly the same that is selling 1k, from the tweeter to passive crossovers.

 

[Zenn]

for the system that u are planning u wont need an electronic crossover for basic use. maybe later if u want more tuning ability or if u want to do 3 way active then u can get one lah.
for now u just need to use the built in crossover from the HU to the amps. if it has 3 pre outs u need 3 pairs of rca to play front, rear & sub. make sure the settings in HU is not high, mid, lo
the big crossover that come with the speakers are called passive crossovers, they divide the sound between tweeter & mid and come after the amp. electronic crossovers divide the signal between channels of the amps, and come after the HU before the amps.

 

[k2000]

Hi there..

How to differenciate imitation and Ori... i have both with me now
Mbquart is full of German writings and Focal's speaker serial number mathces the guarantee card serial number... finishing is superb... other symptom's?

now all the fake stuff is from china, they make the thing look 99.9% same as original and the packaging all also same, it is very difficult to tell before you heard them, and compare with original, btw, how much you pay for the comps?

 

[SaDeLlIx]

Thanks guys.. i think ill use my Hu sound setting's for the beginning.. lots of things to be learned from the Ecplise 8545 Manual.. U guys always adjust your E-crossover according to what?type music or personal settings... from my humble experience, most of the E-crossovers are mounted in the rear boot and u are not free to tune it.. or its an one time setup device? Active crossover is a blackbox(usually) with few tunnable nobes and always mounted indash(am i right?). This device divide signal too?.... Correct me if im wrong... thanks

 

[SaDeLlIx]

Not all the fakies from china are bad... they can make upto 80% perfection(applied to some products).. CHina BerWAwasan Baru ooo... KYheng how's your rockford fosgate comp. sounds?
I got my comp for Focal rm600 Mbquart rm700 from a guy attached to pioneer Malaysia.He said it was actually for sound testing in Singapore but these are the unoped extra sets... EISA mobile loudspeaker sticker is on the Focal's box... Like u said have to listen first... but i never had experianced listning to any of these comps before...donno how.. Gamble laa.. bought already what..

 

[kyheng]

My Rockford comp? Very clear and the bass is nice. Is a real one, only never pass thru distributer in Malaysia. Anyway every component in ICE is not worth that money. Like your 2 comp set and some other high end speakers that cost 1k++, they actually only cost 200-300 when reached Malaysia. The distributer have to make profit first then the accessories shop. If they only can make 5-10% profit from the speakers I can say alot of shops already close down. Atleast they must make profit of 70-80% from it to cover their shop expenses.

 

[mandomain]

Pre Amp

for the system that u are planning u wont need an electronic crossover for basic use. maybe later if u want more tuning ability or if u want to do 3 way active then u can get one lah.
for now u just need to use the built in crossover from the HU to the amps. if it has 3 pre outs u need 3 pairs of rca to play front, rear & sub. make sure the settings in HU is not high, mid, lo
the big crossover that come with the speakers are called passive crossovers, they divide the sound between tweeter & mid and come after the amp. electronic crossovers divide the signal between channels of the amps, and come after the HU before the amps.

sorry to ask !!? why not adding a pre-amp instead adding electronic crossover ,in the begginning stage, cheaper and will help to experiences in frequecy and band ..

 

[Zenn]

he doesnt need preamp if the HU oledi has parametric eq and built in crossover

usually the cheap preamps only induce noise. would rather use lp/hp on the amps.

sadelix the electronic crossover is set according to music first and then fine tuned to your personal reference. should also be a one time thing, thats why its ok to be put at the back, or hidden under your seat. tweak a bit later on is ok la, for fine tuning a bit.

the small box u see in front isnt an active crossover, that a pre-amp parametric equiliser, not always with crossover built in. active crossover and electronic crossover is the same.

 

[SaDeLlIx]

Thanks for the advise guys.. any suggestions for RCA cables, Speaker wires and installations? and whats' the reasonable price i should pay?

 

[DJThoRmented]

The necessity of an e-crossover? First of all how much you going to pay for it? If rm200 only better you don't think of it, as this only bring air plane to your speakers if done properly.

You really do have air planes problem do you?

Do you think cheap brands can give air planes sounds? Then I would say you're wrong. My 1st stage in ICE was big on cheap/imitation stuff, no air plane also. It only happened coz I did not have seperate grounding for my amps. After that all was ok.

Don't mean to harm you in any way but aeroplane sound don't come from brand. They usually come from faulty items and your wire connection. Route your cables properly and you don't need any filter for aeroplane.

As for noise now that's something different in all terms.



SaDeLlIx: Tune your crossover to your speaker specs then plus minus it to your liking. Don't look at me I hate numbers!!! Ha ha ha...

 

[kyheng]

Well, I bought a new one last time, at first I try to say cheap things maybe good, so I rewire it all, seperate the cables and the airplane sound still there. When I bypass the crossover the sound also missing. So I sell it to my friend. Then is like I sell my airplane ticket to him and the airplane sound comes out from his setup as soon as the crossover installed. So now the problem come from where? I wish to try for third car, but I'm sure 99% is still the same problem. So end up I decided to sell to shop.

 

[SaDeLlIx]

Hie guyz...recommendations for installation needed... any suggestions?

 

[Zenn]

since youre in damansara, KF audio in aman suria should be convenient for u.....:shades_smile:

 

[SaDeLlIx]

Thanks Zenn... where is it actually? reasonable price? since u are regular recommend mee larr... got discount for me or not?

 

[kyheng]

Are you looking for speaker cables or RCA cables only? If yes, better becareful, as every accessories shop will cut your throat on this. The more high end the shop is, the more they will charge you. Better survey more shop first before you buy. But I recommend you buy the speaker cables from eletronic shop and install it on the shop. On this way you can save atleast rm100-200. The shop charge you the speaker cable per feet rm1 for normal cable(red and black type), from eletronic shop is rm0.80 per meter(3.3feet). Silver transparent type 2mm, rm4 per feet atleast, so-called OFC or whatever. Same type, same thickness, at eletronic shop rm1 per meter or rm1.50 the most.
Some calculation, if your amp is placed under the seat with 1 pair front and rear 1 pair speakers and want to use silver transparent type(high end speakers you have), the length of the speaker cables will be around 20meters(66feet). Buy from accessories shop 66X4 = 264, eletronic shop 20X1.5 = 30. Diff is 234, with this money you can get a RCA cable or the cost for workmanship for installing your speakers....