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Masturbation: Good or Bad?

Previous page: Freedom from Masturbation study Intro page

The purpose of this page is to explain why masturbation can be detrimental to life and to encourage people to abandon the practice. Granted, masturbation may bring temporary pleasure, but it often comes with the long-term cost of addiction and other sexual problems. Because many people reading this page are not Christians, I've created a separate section for the spiritually-based points. If you are a Christian, I encourage you to take a moment to ask God to show you the truth concerning masturbation.

Non-spiritual points about masturbation

1. Masturbation is addictive! I encourage anyone who doubts masturbation is addictive to see how many weeks or months they can go without masturbating. We know now that sexual addictions are in fact self-induced drug addictions. The chemicals our bodies release during sexual arousal create the same effect on the brain as drugs. Repeated masturbation reinforces a brain chemistry loop of addiction. (ref: Exposing Porn: Science, Religion, and the New Addiction, Paul Strand. www.cbn.com, April 2004) As with drug addiction, masturbation requires an increasing amount of stimulus to achieve consistent levels of pleasure. This can lead to both an increased frequency of the habit and a never-ending search for new material to enhance the experience.

2. Masturbation conditions our bodies to respond to self-stimulation, which is self-centered. This damages our ability to relate to another person sexually. Sex is a relational experience, where we give attention to another person's needs at least as much as to our own. If we've been serving our own desires habitually, we may find it difficult to give our partner the attention he or she desires. Additionally, the hormones released in the brain during sexual arousal cause a bonding to whatever we are looking at and/or thinking about at the time. This can cause us to be more sexually responsive to masturbation (and its associated fantasies) than to real sex.

3. Masturbation causes sexual imbalance: Masturbation stirs up our sexual emotions and trains our bodies to seek sexual release more frequently than normal. Common sense tells us that there should be a balance between sex and the other activities in our lives. Masturbation disrupts that balance by training our bodies and minds to expect gratification more frequently than normal. Like a feedback loop in an amplifier, the imbalance between reality and fantasy can likely drive a person further into the addiction.

The sexual imbalance can also affect other areas of our lives by diverting energy, time and resources into sexual activity. For example, a man stays up late each night to surf for porn to masturbate to. His job performance suffers because he can't stay awake during the day, his family life sours because he's grouchy, his wife is alienated from him by his lack of affection and interest in her, and his debt increases because of the credit card charges from the porn sites he's visiting to feed his habit.

The people most likely to suffer from the imbalance are people who don't have a regular provision for sexual intimacy (ex. teens, singles, divorced persons, widowed persons, persons in sexually dysfunctional marriages). Ironically, these are the same people that may be strongly tempted to indulge in porn and masturbation. If they whet their appetite by indulging, chances are that they could easily get hooked in the addictive cycle that the imbalance creates.

Spiritual points about masturbation

For Christians, there are some important issues we need to address concerning masturbation. The foundational question is, “Are you committed to honoring God with your life?" If you are, then I urge you to carefully consider the points presented in this section.

Let’s first examine the typical sins that accompany masturbation: lust and sexual idolatry. These may not be involved in every case, but they usually are.

Lust

Definitions from Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:
(n) Intense or unbridled sexual desire, lasciviousness...an intense longing: craving
(v) to have an intense desire or need, crave

Obvious examples of lust during masturbation include looking at pornography and fantasizing about sex. As we can see from the definitions, lust can simply be an intense longing or craving. It may not even be a conscious thought, but simply a gut feeling of the flesh.

Sexual Idolatry

Definition of idolatry from Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:
(n) Immoderate attachment or devotion to something

Definitions of idol from Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:
A likeness of something
A form or appearance; visible but without substance
An object of extreme devotion
A representation or symbol of an object of worship
A false conception; fallacy

When we look at porn or form sexual images by memory or imagination during masturbation, we are basically feeding an immoderate attachment or devotion to the idol of sex. Such attachment and devotion is greatly reinforced by the pleasurable brain chemicals released during sexual arousal and orgasm.

Idolatry is sin (Exodus 20:3-5) and it can bring unpleasant consequences, such as demonic oppression and generational curses. God's primary command to us is that we love him with all our heart, soul and mind (Matthew 22:36-38). I suggest that it is impossible to love God with all our heart, soul and mind when we are idolizing sex images in our eyes and thoughts!

Having discussed lust and sexual idolatry, we can now explore the spiritual impact of masturbation.

1. Masturbation causes you to be "mastered" by sin: The Bible says that there are only two things that we can be a slave to: sin or righteousness. There are no other masters. Paul wrote:

Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? Romans 6:16 NKJV

Which master does masturbation bring us under? In almost every case, it is used to complement sins of lust or sexual idolatry and will therefore enslave us to sin.

God does not want us to be mastered by sin. For example, he told Cain, "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it" (Genesis 4:7 NKJV). Cain failed and sin ruled him for the rest of his life. After killing his brother, he lost his job, his peace, his home, and his blessing and spent the rest of his days as a "restless wanderer" (Genesis 4:12).

Likewise, we have the same opportunity to choose our master. If we choose sin as our master, our life will bear the fruit that sin brings - i.e. destruction, sorrow, dissatisfaction, death, etc.. If we choose righteousness as our master, we will reap life! Paul wrote:

20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:20-23 NIV

2. Masturbation uses your body as an instrument for sin: Your body is to be presented and used as an instrument for righteousness, not sin. Paul wrote:

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God Romans 6:12-13 NKJV

God can best use us when we keep our "vessels" (body, soul & spirit) free of sin. Paul wrote:

In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 2 Timothy 2:20-22 NIV

It is our responsibility to cleanse ourselves from sinful motives and purposes with the help of the Holy Spirit. Practicing masturbation is the exact opposite of fleeing evil desires because it involves setting our minds on the evil desires and using our bodies to act them out. In so doing, we are hindering the usefulness of our vessels for God.

3. Masturbation defiles God's temple and grieves the Holy Spirit: As believers in Jesus Christ, our bodies are literally temples for God's Holy Spirit, who lives in us. Sexual sin is unique in that it damages this special union we have with God. Paul alluded to this when he wrote that sexual sin is sinning against our own bodies ((1 Corinthians 6:18). He even compared it to trying to unite Jesus with a prostitute (1 Corinthians 6:15-16). Since masturbation rehearses sexual sins (ex. lust or sexual idolatry), it will likewise damage our relationship with God and defile his temple (our bodies).

God commands us to "honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:20 NIV). This is a form of spiritual worship that we do physically:

"Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will." Romans 12:1-2 NIV

4. Masturbation reinforces "carnal-mindedness": Masturbation sets our minds on gratifying our sinful desires and in so doing we become "carnally minded." Paul wrote:

Live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want Galatians 5:16-17 NIV

Carnal-mindedness destroys our life and peace and keeps us from pleasing God. Paul wrote:

For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God Romans 8:5-8 NKJV

5. Masturbation brings you into deception and corruption: Masturbation opens the door to the deceiving influences of lust. Paul wrote about this deceit in Ephesians 4:22-24 NKJV:

Put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

Embracing lust or sexual idolatry through masturbation will therefore hinder any progress we want to make in becoming the "new man" God created us to be (2 Corinthians 5:17). Our repeated practice of lust through masturbation will also bring about a "hardening" of our spiritual heart toward God (Hebrews 3:13). This could ultimately cause us to turn away from God completely.

6. Masturbation molds your mind into the world’s pattern of thinking: The world’s pattern is largely based on lust (1 John 2:15-17). Masturbation rehearses lust in our thoughts and reinforces it with physical pleasure. Using pornography or recalling sex memories while masturbating further ingrains the world’s pattern in our thoughts.

The consequence of embracing the world's pattern (i.e. the pleasures of sin), is that we will block God’s love from operating in and through us:

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world. 1 John 2:15-17 NKJV

God wants us to no longer conform to the world’s pattern of thinking, but be transformed in our thinking:

Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:2 NIV

Concluding Comments

One of the questions that we frequently hear is, "Is masturbation without lust or sexual idolatry wrong?" I'm skeptical that this is even possible, yet for the sake of discussion let's say that it is. Masturbation clearly sows to the flesh and its desires (see point #4 above). God commands his followers to sow to the Spirit's desires and not the flesh's desires (Galatians 6:8). While it may be permissible for a Christian to practice masturbation, how could it be beneficial since it sets the mind on the flesh's desires (1 Corinthians 6:12)?

Overall, masturbation can rob you of many of the blessings God has planned for your life. If you are a Christian, you have an obligation, not to live focused on fulfilling your fleshly lusts, but rather, to live focused on fulfilling the Holy Spirit's desires (Romans 8:12-13). Masturbation poses the threat of lifelong bondage and a handicapped spiritual walk. Jesus was resurrected so that you also could live in a new life, free from the slavery of sin.
 
I thought i was going to learn why TFK is bad in general terms. But it seems like bible study to me. If i were to relate TFK is a sin yet it is. So is rape, murder, stealing blah blah. So whats new?

What kills me is, the info started ok, then slowly degenerates to bible stuff. WTF??!! :angry:
 
nice article to read but i doubt its validity. you know there's too much rubbish thats been lying on the internet for quite some time. the last time i read that coke will cause cancer and used as a detergent to clean toilet. also, the one on plastic mineral water bottles too. i think most people fell for it, one of them my mum. she instantly bought 3 so called "extra durable" water container for me to use coz someone told her plastic mineral water bottle causes cancer after prolong re-usage.
 
Originally posted by sakuraguy@Apr 11 2005, 17:33
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Originally posted by boggysv@Apr 11 2005, 17:29
umm...

how about if your partner does it for you?

hahah good one...i guess its not a sin then?
:lol:
 
wahhh !!!! ambayah .. ure so dangerous worr .. i mistakely post it ;) .. i was at another thread .. caught me oledi arr? .. ekekekek
 
Originally posted by sakuraguy@Apr 11 2005, 17:44
wahhh !!!! ambayah .. ure so dangerous worr .. i mistakely post it .. i was at another thread .. caught me oledi arr? .. ekekekek
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Ha ha, fear me guys.

Woi change signature eh.
 
I pity the guy who wrote that piece and I am deeply worried about the people who will actually believe this pile of Jurassic dinoshit. Both need some serious help.
 
Originally posted by szekeiemme@Apr 11 2005, 19:29
damn bloody long.. ahhaa
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what is damm bloody long? :lol: :P
 
I don't know, I cannot say for everyone but this is my point of view:

Non-spiritual points:
1) Masturbation is not an addiction. Addiction is, something you can't go on without and withdrawal symptoms might appear. But no, anyone can go without it for a long time. (at least I know I can, but maybe some people who cant).

2) Hmm I dont agree on this. You can ask my girlfriend to prove it. Plus, masturbation also lets us guys "tahan" longer during sex, no? B)

3) Yes, masturbation DOES keep the balance in our life. It is our sexual duty to do some form of release every now and then. If you say masturbation is not good, why it is when if we don't masturbate for a long time, wet dreams occur and then we wet our pants at night? Or even with no wet dream sometime, it'll automatically .. cum. (can't find any more suitable word).

Again, every and anything done too many times is not good.

Your example of a man spending time at night looking for porn is an unfair example. Lazy to argue, but porn can be easily found in less than 5 mins. Or any vcd stall.

If that example can be used, I also can say that:
If people don't masturbate, and they need the sexual release, they'll go start raping people/animals/whatnots.


Spiritual points:
There are a lot of arguments in the Christian community whether masturbation is OK or not. As far as I know, so far no one have had a full non-arguable answer to this.

I've stumbled upon before on a website that argue on both sides and concluded that there are no true answer in the bible.

Like I said, anything done overboard is not good. As long as you don't get yourself hurt and other people hurt, you are fine. Don't let masturbation enslave you that it clouds your mind.

If God didn't allow masturbation, why would he create a dick long enough to be masturbated (ok lame joke..).. or wet dreams, etc. Lust is definately wrong in the bible. Yeah you can argue that masturbation is the cause of lust. But it would be a better "sin" (if you wanna start calling it that) then go and grab that woman's breast that you lust after or start humping at her, right?

I'll try to look for that website again if I can when I'm free.
 
Originally posted by cyclonite@Apr 11 2005, 16:49
Masturbation: Good or Bad?

Previous page: Freedom from Masturbation study Intro page

The purpose of this page is to explain why masturbation can be detrimental to life and to encourage people to abandon the practice. Granted, masturbation may bring temporary pleasure, but it often comes with the long-term cost of addiction and other sexual problems. Because many people reading this page are not Christians, I've created a separate section for the spiritually-based points. If you are a Christian, I encourage you to take a moment to ask God to show you the truth concerning masturbation.

Non-spiritual points about masturbation

1. Masturbation is addictive! I encourage anyone who doubts masturbation is addictive to see how many weeks or months they can go without masturbating. We know now that sexual addictions are in fact self-induced drug addictions. The chemicals our bodies release during sexual arousal create the same effect on the brain as drugs. Repeated masturbation reinforces a brain chemistry loop of addiction. (ref: Exposing Porn: Science, Religion, and the New Addiction, Paul Strand. www.cbn.com, April 2004) As with drug addiction, masturbation requires an increasing amount of stimulus to achieve consistent levels of pleasure. This can lead to both an increased frequency of the habit and a never-ending search for new material to enhance the experience.

2. Masturbation conditions our bodies to respond to self-stimulation, which is self-centered. This damages our ability to relate to another person sexually. Sex is a relational experience, where we give attention to another person's needs at least as much as to our own. If we've been serving our own desires habitually, we may find it difficult to give our partner the attention he or she desires. Additionally, the hormones released in the brain during sexual arousal cause a bonding to whatever we are looking at and/or thinking about at the time. This can cause us to be more sexually responsive to masturbation (and its associated fantasies) than to real sex.

3. Masturbation causes sexual imbalance: Masturbation stirs up our sexual emotions and trains our bodies to seek sexual release more frequently than normal. Common sense tells us that there should be a balance between sex and the other activities in our lives. Masturbation disrupts that balance by training our bodies and minds to expect gratification more frequently than normal. Like a feedback loop in an amplifier, the imbalance between reality and fantasy can likely drive a person further into the addiction.

The sexual imbalance can also affect other areas of our lives by diverting energy, time and resources into sexual activity. For example, a man stays up late each night to surf for porn to masturbate to. His job performance suffers because he can't stay awake during the day, his family life sours because he's grouchy, his wife is alienated from him by his lack of affection and interest in her, and his debt increases because of the credit card charges from the porn sites he's visiting to feed his habit.

The people most likely to suffer from the imbalance are people who don't have a regular provision for sexual intimacy (ex. teens, singles, divorced persons, widowed persons, persons in sexually dysfunctional marriages). Ironically, these are the same people that may be strongly tempted to indulge in porn and masturbation. If they whet their appetite by indulging, chances are that they could easily get hooked in the addictive cycle that the imbalance creates.

Spiritual points about masturbation

For Christians, there are some important issues we need to address concerning masturbation. The foundational question is, “Are you committed to honoring God with your life?" If you are, then I urge you to carefully consider the points presented in this section.

Let’s first examine the typical sins that accompany masturbation: lust and sexual idolatry. These may not be involved in every case, but they usually are.

Lust

Definitions from Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:
(n) Intense or unbridled sexual desire, lasciviousness...an intense longing: craving
(v) to have an intense desire or need, crave

Obvious examples of lust during masturbation include looking at pornography and fantasizing about sex. As we can see from the definitions, lust can simply be an intense longing or craving. It may not even be a conscious thought, but simply a gut feeling of the flesh.

Sexual Idolatry

Definition of idolatry from Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:
(n) Immoderate attachment or devotion to something

Definitions of idol from Webster’s 9th New Collegiate Dictionary:
A likeness of something
A form or appearance; visible but without substance
An object of extreme devotion
A representation or symbol of an object of worship
A false conception; fallacy

When we look at porn or form sexual images by memory or imagination during masturbation, we are basically feeding an immoderate attachment or devotion to the idol of sex. Such attachment and devotion is greatly reinforced by the pleasurable brain chemicals released during sexual arousal and orgasm.

Idolatry is sin (Exodus 20:3-5) and it can bring unpleasant consequences, such as demonic oppression and generational curses. God's primary command to us is that we love him with all our heart, soul and mind (Matthew 22:36-38). I suggest that it is impossible to love God with all our heart, soul and mind when we are idolizing sex images in our eyes and thoughts!

Having discussed lust and sexual idolatry, we can now explore the spiritual impact of masturbation.

1. Masturbation causes you to be "mastered" by sin: The Bible says that there are only two things that we can be a slave to: sin or righteousness. There are no other masters. Paul wrote:

Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? Romans 6:16 NKJV

Which master does masturbation bring us under? In almost every case, it is used to complement sins of lust or sexual idolatry and will therefore enslave us to sin.

God does not want us to be mastered by sin. For example, he told Cain, "If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it" (Genesis 4:7 NKJV). Cain failed and sin ruled him for the rest of his life. After killing his brother, he lost his job, his peace, his home, and his blessing and spent the rest of his days as a "restless wanderer" (Genesis 4:12).

Likewise, we have the same opportunity to choose our master. If we choose sin as our master, our life will bear the fruit that sin brings - i.e. destruction, sorrow, dissatisfaction, death, etc.. If we choose righteousness as our master, we will reap life! Paul wrote:

20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:20-23 NIV

2. Masturbation uses your body as an instrument for sin: Your body is to be presented and used as an instrument for righteousness, not sin. Paul wrote:

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God Romans 6:12-13 NKJV

God can best use us when we keep our "vessels" (body, soul & spirit) free of sin. Paul wrote:

In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 2 Timothy 2:20-22 NIV

It is our responsibility to cleanse ourselves from sinful motives and purposes with the help of the Holy Spirit. Practicing masturbation is the exact opposite of fleeing evil desires because it involves setting our minds on the evil desires and using our bodies to act them out. In so doing, we are hindering the usefulness of our vessels for God.

3. Masturbation defiles God's temple and grieves the Holy Spirit: As believers in Jesus Christ, our bodies are literally temples for God's Holy Spirit, who lives in us. Sexual sin is unique in that it damages this special union we have with God. Paul alluded to this when he wrote that sexual sin is sinning against our own bodies ((1 Corinthians 6:18). He even compared it to trying to unite Jesus with a prostitute (1 Corinthians 6:15-16). Since masturbation rehearses sexual sins (ex. lust or sexual idolatry), it will likewise damage our relationship with God and defile his temple (our bodies).

God commands us to "honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:20 NIV). This is a form of spiritual worship that we do physically:

"Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will." Romans 12:1-2 NIV

4. Masturbation reinforces "carnal-mindedness": Masturbation sets our minds on gratifying our sinful desires and in so doing we become "carnally minded." Paul wrote:

Live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want Galatians 5:16-17 NIV

Carnal-mindedness destroys our life and peace and keeps us from pleasing God. Paul wrote:

For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God Romans 8:5-8 NKJV

5. Masturbation brings you into deception and corruption: Masturbation opens the door to the deceiving influences of lust. Paul wrote about this deceit in Ephesians 4:22-24 NKJV:

Put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

Embracing lust or sexual idolatry through masturbation will therefore hinder any progress we want to make in becoming the "new man" God created us to be (2 Corinthians 5:17). Our repeated practice of lust through masturbation will also bring about a "hardening" of our spiritual heart toward God (Hebrews 3:13). This could ultimately cause us to turn away from God completely.

6. Masturbation molds your mind into the world’s pattern of thinking: The world’s pattern is largely based on lust (1 John 2:15-17). Masturbation rehearses lust in our thoughts and reinforces it with physical pleasure. Using pornography or recalling sex memories while masturbating further ingrains the world’s pattern in our thoughts.

The consequence of embracing the world's pattern (i.e. the pleasures of sin), is that we will block God’s love from operating in and through us:

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not of the Father but is of the world. 1 John 2:15-17 NKJV

God wants us to no longer conform to the world’s pattern of thinking, but be transformed in our thinking:

Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:2 NIV

Concluding Comments

One of the questions that we frequently hear is, "Is masturbation without lust or sexual idolatry wrong?" I'm skeptical that this is even possible, yet for the sake of discussion let's say that it is. Masturbation clearly sows to the flesh and its desires (see point #4 above). God commands his followers to sow to the Spirit's desires and not the flesh's desires (Galatians 6:8). While it may be permissible for a Christian to practice masturbation, how could it be beneficial since it sets the mind on the flesh's desires (1 Corinthians 6:12)?

Overall, masturbation can rob you of many of the blessings God has planned for your life. If you are a Christian, you have an obligation, not to live focused on fulfilling your fleshly lusts, but rather, to live focused on fulfilling the Holy Spirit's desires (Romans 8:12-13). Masturbation poses the threat of lifelong bondage and a handicapped spiritual walk. Jesus was resurrected so that you also could live in a new life, free from the slavery of sin.
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A protestant ? Are you ? I mean you're not catholic
 
Yeah protestant.

thri-p: if you say it's not an addiction, well not everyone find it easy to just stop straight away and can tahan w/o doing anything sexual.

don't want to argue with you guys coz there's definitely be ways to justify that i'm wrong, right? just ask yourself whether God will be happy when people do it or not. And the effects to your marriage next time, not physical but emotional.

2) Hmm I dont agree on this. You can ask my girlfriend to prove it. Plus, masturbation also lets us guys "tahan" longer during sex, no?

Medically speaking it's the opposite. The more you masturbate the more you are training your body to ejaculate faster.
 
dun u guys see what this is...it's a way to help how to prolong your self pleasure sessions...u TFK until u nearly peak and read this passage for 2 mins :lol:

naaahhh i was jus joking...i truly thinks that masturation is not good in long term...might create some maniac rapist pent up deep inside...maybe once in a while to vent off some preassure is ok lar...i think
 
cyclonite: Honestly, I dont see how it will affect my marriage in the future, whether emotional or physical. It doesn't even affect me and my girlfriend now - how should it affect my marriage? I know it is a non-arguable subject, but since you post it up, I just wanna say that there are 2 points of this story. So it is totally up to you how you want to take it.

HEhe I know -normal- people don't get addicted to them. You dont HAVE to masturbate if you don't want to. It is like, hmm I don't know how to describe but I still don't think it is naturally a addiction. It is a stage in life where at certain age you do it, and then at certain age, you start having sex (and stop doing it, or still might during your "lonely" times), etc.

And no, I disagree with you that medically it says it makes you ejaculate faster. Can you please tell me where you quote this from? Everything else I read says otherwise. Masturbation makes your penis becomes less sensitive and getting use to it, therefore making you ejaculate later. A uncircumcised guy would usually ejaculate faster first time during sex than a circumcised because of penis sensitivity.
 
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