SV4 with H22A?

[tlyeow]

Dear Forummers, need some advise and help on the following, hope you guys can help to shed some light on this. I am planning to get the old 94-95 accord (SV4) and want to do a engine transplant...

1. I plan to put in a H22A, how's the fuel consumption and parts availability on this engine?

2. Do I need to tamper with the engine mounts? can the location of the current mounts match the H22A engine?

3. What other engines should I consider?

4. Can I upgrade the interior with JDM parts? Are these available? e.g, digital aircon, speed meters, Euro R seats + door trimmings, etc.

Hope you all can help... Many thanks in advance!

 

[hky]

1. B4 conversion is like 8km/l, after conversion can reach 10km/l
2. chances are accord that old, the mounting already koyak or going to koyak, since u doing transplant, might as well do it one shot, save labour cost.
3. SV4 is quote heavy, so H22a is the best but there is also a blue top call F20b from E-CF4, different halfcut will give you different BHP. Auto or manual also makes a big difference.
4. Yes every damn thing (if u get a CD6 SIR (SV4) halfcut) that you see on the halfcut. Some mechanics will just cut the wire and transplant, while some will take out everything from your car and put in everything from JDM, including the wires, hence higher labor cost.

Let me know once u have done ur conversion, would like to test drive, :)

hope this help.

 

[aja]

1. B4 conversion is like 8km/l, after conversion can reach 10km/l
2. chances are accord that old, the mounting already koyak or going to koyak, since u doing transplant, might as well do it one shot, save labour cost.
3. SV4 is quote heavy, so H22a is the best but there is also a blue top call F20b from E-CF4, different halfcut will give you different BHP. Auto or manual also makes a big difference.
4. Yes every damn thing (if u get a CD6 SIR (SV4) halfcut) that you see on the halfcut. Some mechanics will just cut the wire and transplant, while some will take out everything from your car and put in everything from JDM, including the wires, hence higher labor cost.

Let me know once u have done ur conversion, would like to test drive, :)

hope this help.

That F20B from CF4 can't fit into SV4 bays. Have to modify the mountings. Somemore, the EPS cannot be used.

 

[hky]

Aja,

I think possible if mod everything from the HC into the sv4.

 

[aja]

Aja,

I think possible if mod everything from the HC into the sv4.

If mod, sure it can be done. And of course have to mod all the mounting at the first place,..which is not soo recommended cause not so JPJ-friendly. What i meant previously is originally it's mounting are totally different. Can't just simply plug & play.

FYI, last time in S. Alam got 1 SV4 with H23A DOHC Vtec engine inside, with tiptronic gearbox!!. (from CH9 chasis - CF4 wagon). Very clean & neat conversion. Tidious job i would say, cause have to mod there and here. The best case is..Got JPJ approved somemore. Donno how did they manage to get thru it!!

 

[aja]

Aja,

I think possible if mod everything from the HC into the sv4.

Again, as for me.. in u really keen in doing engine coversion especially for H22A which come with a damn heavy crank & engine, better get those model with just plug & play la. so that u mountings got enough power to hold the engine. Last time, got few Eg friends with H22A inside also. The engine mounting really can't tahan one, always koyak !! After few months, have to change a new mountings etc.

 

[hky]

like that H23A, my mech should be able to do it. even for my friend H22A SV4, he added hydraulic mounting to it. The transplant dun even look out of place. JPJ approval, peanuts for him.

 

[aja]

like that H23A, my mech should be able to do it. even for my friend H22A SV4, he added hydraulic mounting to it. The transplant dun even look out of place. JPJ approval, peanuts for him.

If like that, better do fast, before JPJ tukar fikiran lagi .. kekekekeke

 

[tlyeow]

Hi Guys, Thanks for the feedback. Over the weekend, I drove around to some chop shops to look around. but I am still a little confused...

1. Can the CF4's H22A (Red Top) engine fit into the SV4 without any changes to the engine mounts?

2. What's the difference between the CF4's H22A engine (Red top) from the CD6's H22A?

3. If the engine mounts need to be tampered with, will JPJ give me problems for approval? Puspakom?

Many thanks for your opinions!

 

[jemi5467]

How much for the H22A engine?

 

[aja]

Hi Guys, Thanks for the feedback. Over the weekend, I drove around to some chop shops to look around. but I am still a little confused...

1. Can the CF4's H22A (Red Top) engine fit into the SV4 without any changes to the engine mounts?

2. What's the difference between the CF4's H22A engine (Red top) from the CD6's H22A?

3. If the engine mounts need to be tampered with, will JPJ give me problems for approval? Puspakom?

Many thanks for your opinions!

Some answers:-

1. BAsically cannot. If u still want to do it, then kena mod engine bay here & there, which is not so recommended cause JPJ matter + safety reason. Actually CF4 don't have red cover H22A. It's Euro R CL1 with H22A red cover.

2. H22A red = 220ps, H22A Black (CD6) = 200ps

3. JPJ sure kacau punya, for the safety reason. Better buy plug & play halfcut, ie CD6. If can passes also, think about your safetiness cause H22A crank is heavy. Improper DIY engine mounting will put u in trouble later

 

[aja]

How much for the H22A engine?

CD6 Manual around RM6k-RM6.5k (hard to find). If found & in good condition, better buy fast.

CD6 auto many, cost around RM4.5k-RM5k

 

[hky]

CD6 Manual around RM6k-RM6.5k (hard to find). If found & in good condition, better buy fast.

CD6 auto many, cost around RM4.5k-RM5k

CD6 manual actually comes with 190ps, i found one that day, very good condition for 5k plus

 

[tlyeow]

Hmmm.... I thot there was a CF4 Euro R with a H22A Red top?... can anyone clarify this?

but generally, I would not be looking to do any engine mount changes or modification due to safety reasons... hehe... dun wan the engine to suddenly jatuh...hahah..

hmmm... so far looks like the H22A from the CD6 is the best bet for the SV4...

From the CD6's H22A, what kind of performance upgrades are available... Can used H22A Euro R engine parts be put in? are these available?

Cheers!

 

[hky]

the manual halfcut i mentioned was sold. it was superb condition.

the cf4 euro-r u mention is actually cl1 euro-r which is what Aja is having.

engine mount is not really a complicated job as long as u r willing to spend the extra money changing all your mount and put in extra mount. the only reason why an engine will drop is because the mount cannot support or cannot absorb the amount of vibration generated by engine. so if you engine don't shake during high rev, nothing to worry about. a new mount can offset u by RM300 and u probably need 4. never try to reuse the halfcut mount, coz sooner or later u will need to change the mount also.

performance upgrade? anything that u can find or willing to spend on. lsd gearbox, piggyback ecu, throttle body .......etc

 

[hky]

Aja,


I still haven't have the chance to test drive your euro-r, selamat hari raya man

 

[aja]

Hmmm.... I thot there was a CF4 Euro R with a H22A Red top?... can anyone clarify this?

but generally, I would not be looking to do any engine mount changes or modification due to safety reasons... hehe... dun wan the engine to suddenly jatuh...hahah..

hmmm... so far looks like the H22A from the CD6 is the best bet for the SV4...

From the CD6's H22A, what kind of performance upgrades are available... Can used H22A Euro R engine parts be put in? are these available?

Cheers!

CF4 red cover H22A is Euro R, with factory-rated 220ps and manual tranny, of course.!!

Performance parts for black cover H22A or CD6 not so many here as compared with other models like B16* or B18* series, but still available. Depends on your luck.

For instance, red cover H22A Type R parts CAN"T be fitted into H22A black cover, eve though they carried the same engine code. Funny, isn't!!. As a simple example, even though the plugs are different, whereby H22A Euro R is a bit taller, compared with CD6 H22A.

 

[aja]

Aja,


I still haven't have the chance to test drive your euro-r, selamat hari raya man

Thanks, BTW I'm already at kampung. So malas la nak log-in here. kekekeke.

One day, when we meet u csn test drive my car, anytime.. kekeekekekeke

 

[Hartge]

means ...all in it would come to 8k +

What other modds available if the budget is around 4-5k ?
cheers

 

[aja]

means ...all in it would come to 8k +

What other modds available if the budget is around 4-5k ?
cheers

With budget around RM4k-5k, which is consider low, i think nothing much can be done. FYI, if your go for RM5k budget max, after minus labor charges & also wear & tear items which would cost around RM1.5k minimum, it only left u around RM3.5k for a H22A halfcut..which looks very impossible. Even B20B DOHC non-Vtec would price a bit higher than that, i think. Not to mention the F20B DOHC Vtec which priced around RM5k-RM6k ..or unless u gor for the F20B SOHC Vtec which should be priced around that initial price bracket!!.

FYI, nowadays halfcut price getting more expensive and more merrier due to aprreciaiton of yen currency and also depreciation of our RM against other currency. Not to mention also other slight increase in operational charges like mobilisation charges, insurance etc.