Rm35 for camber nut and rm15 to adjust???

[XlimShady]

Hi guys, I need some clarification here.

Serviced my car at a local shop in Perak today. Did oil change and alignment.

When doing my alignment the mechanic told me that my chamber 'lari' quite teruk already. I saw at the computer screen, -2.3, -2.4,-2.8, -2.0. Smth like that, but doesn't matter.

The thing is he told me that to adjust I will need to add camber nuts which will cost rm35 each (in which I think is ridiculously expensive) The nuts are for the front end only, he said behind already got but will charge rm15 to adjust each side. (so total if I adjust all my cambers will be rm110)

I read of this kind of scam before in ZTH saying that camber nuts cost rm60 each so I just told the mechanic it's ok. I drive and see first..... Bottom line I did my alignment only without adjusting the camber. Total cost rm30 for alignment.

So... what do you guys think??? Any recommended shop do adjust my camber without having to pay a bomb ?

 

[holysniper]

that sounds cheap to me! i think jb area selling camber nut for 55rm each?

 

[denden4]

Rm110 consider ok,i wuz in ur situation before,but luckily i fix my chamber for free because i buy sportrim frm that shop

 

[hamtaro00]

hi bro perak which part? i've faced the same prob with u b4. i DIY change sport rim, and went for allignment.bugger said the camber nut KO so need to change and adjust. wiwa wiwa few hours, take back the car still feeling unsatisfied. next day went back to same shop to rectify, again said the same nuts problem, so to minimize argument as im not in the mood, again repeat the same thing!

then went another shop for alignement etc. properly done. so i asked the boss y he no change d nuts. he said the things is ok not necessary to change. im noob then dont know how t assess the nuts so consider lesson learnt. and for your price, its considered standard

 

[langsuyrx]

camber nut price sometimes really nuts!!~

 

[eohl79]

If you really need the camber nuts, go to spare parts shop. I bought it for RM8 a pair few years back... so now you know how you are being slaughtered. RM35x2 = RM70... they really make a lot of $$$ Can check online at lelong.com.my too. I think there are some people selling it.

 

[ae92r]

From my experience, there are no need to change to adjustable camber nut like many alignment center said....at my friend alignment shop in Seremban, they just tuned the camber by unscrew the original camber nut, set it to certain degree and thighten it back, either front or rear camber. The alignment personnel said the adjustable nut is useless, it tend to get out of tune after couple months.... My car camber have never been set out since my last setting in 2009.

 

[XlimShady]

Okay, the question is whether front already have the nuts? Should have right ?

I think I'll go back to Dori-Dori to adjust when i'm back in Selangor for my studies.

 

[hamtaro00]

yes front have nuts =D

 

[teriyaki_gsr]

if u buy chamber nuts at spare part around rm8-10..adjust chamber 1 side rm25 or rm30..
ni kdai2 yg penah aku g wat la.

 

[poolupwai]

there seems to be divided opinions regarding this matter. while some argue that adjustable camber nut is fancy addition, some stood by their opinions that adjustable camber nuts are totally useless.

after some forum hunting, here's wat i found out:

1. macpherson strut usually does not need to adjust camber. (pls correct if im wrong)
2. some sifus mentioned that camber will not lari as long as u dun whack ur tyre hard (accidents, etc), so no need to change camber nut.
3. adjustable camber nuts can be bought at rm8 per pair (observed market price)

as for myself, i have changed d FL side camber nut when doing alignment, n the tireman charged me rm25 for one nut, adjusting is free. (all my cars r done at d same shop). after doing aligment, we would do a round of fast cornerings to test d settings n fine-tune if necessary. (he knows my driving style)

so the question that remains is whether adjustable camber nut is necessary or, is it just an accessory?

any sifus would like to shed light on this?

 

[XlimShady]

I think the nuts there the mechanic wanted to charge me for is just normal nuts.

And as for the camber lari is because my car driven one year already, the mech did explain that going over bumps and pot holes on the road will offset your camber bit by bit.

Poolupwai, don't mind sharing which tyre shop you go to ?

 

[cruiser78]

RM35 for one nut and a bolt with an adjusting cam... really expensive. My mechanic just loosen the original bolts and adjust until the camber is straight. No need to change bolt. The holes on the absorber are bog enough to accommodate the adjusting requirement

 

[muzhaffar]

Before this i went to one tire shop at ampang..to do allingment after changing my rear tire linkage bush. then they checked, the rear tire missallign badly. then they said that they already adjust to the max and still got around -2 degree. then they said need to use chamber nut as my camber also out. i refuse and ask them just to do the allignment as far as they can.. 2 days later, i went to another tire shop that i used to go before. thay check, my chamber is fine. no need to adjust. then, the rear tire allignment still can adjust. so, no need to use chamber nut at all. i'm really confident that my chamber is ok since all of the tire shop i went for alligment before, no issue with the chamber. only that specific shop which try to cheat the customer. normally, your car will not have prob with chamber unless the absorber is bend, or you involve in heavy accident before. my car is very lowered and everytime hit the deep hole, can feel the absorber hit each other and as a result, my car chamber still ok. no need to use chamber nut. if you use stock absorber and spring, i believe it much2 more difficult for your car to become off chamber. not all tire shop can do correct and honest job...becareful of those.. if you dont satisfy with their job, just ask them to readjust again..if still not ok, just go to another shop..or you just waste your time there..

 

[hamtaro00]

for layman like me and maybe you, its hard to determine whether we need to do allignment and nuts setting, unless the mechanic/ worker/ boss did share some knowledge with u and u have a good connection with him. small parts but if change will add up to a painful amount. think back of it, i still feel like an idiot, went back to the same shop and kena chop twice lol.

camber adjustment will lari no matter how careful we drive, just matter of time and the contributing factor is our awesome road =) and true that not all shop can do a good and honest job. some have alot outlet etc but the work just unaccpetable

 

[crazykatak]

For a satria neo, u need to adjust camber settings when the outer shoulder of your tyres are wearing out faster than the middle and inside..especially if u like to layan corner.
now......
camber adjustment alone is not sufficient to reduce tyre wear.

 

[holysniper]

Other then camber bolts, do we have options of installing camber plates/arms?

I am on Gap HA coilovers..

 

[Maxx Ha]

I just change my tyre at Top Speed batu gajah. They said my chamber need to change to adjustable one. So change one at RM20. Adjustment cost rm40 for both side. Then I got con liao lor... Every tyre shop I went also not honest.. shit. Anyone can recommend a honest tyre shop at ipoh?
Price for goodyear NCT5 = RM210/pcs. Bridgestone turanza e-30 also same price. Continential cc5 = RM220/pcs
Which one is better among 3 above? Any sifu .. pls advise.

 

[nyantong]

Macpherson struts do have camber nuts but it depends on the model of vehicle. Some manufacturers locate them elsewhere like at the lower arms instead. As for changing the camber bolts to new ones, it depends on whether the camber still can be adjusted within the manufacturer's spec or has it exceeded the limit. If so, there can be two reason; either the eccentric shim on the camber bolt has worn out or the control arms themselves have stretched or bent. Usually the cheaper way is to try and correct the camber by replacing them with new ones to see if they can adjust your vehicle's camber back to spec. If not, the affected arms have to be changed as well.

 

[neohadri]

sorry TS for hijacking your thread,

what is neo's factory camber & toe spec?

recently during my tire & absorber change, i took a peek during alignment process, the machine show neo factory spec is =0.30°~-0.30° for camber & 0.02°~-0.02° for toe,

mine was set to -0.1° for camber & -0.02° for toe,

absorber is OEM bought from proton & tires is S1 evo, 45 series,

right now the steering feel, esspecially during turn in is less responsive, need more steering lock, i thot after switching from 50 series tires to 45 series, the steering will be more responsive, the tires has been fully run in tho